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The E-Sylum: Volume 18, Number 5, February 1, 2015, Article 12

NOTES FROM E-SYLUM READERS: FEBRUARY 1, 2015

Stubenrauch Tokens & Medals
Bruce Smith writes:

Charles Stubenrauch Medals Of All Kinds Coined reverse Stubenrauch had a long career making medals and tokens in St. Louis since before the Civil War. For a few years during the war (1863-64?) he was in partnership under the name Stubenrauch & Weber. Some of the St. Louis Post Office tokens bear this name in small letters at the bottom, which makes them Civil War era tokens. Some of the Post Office tokens probably pre-date the Civil War, and others are clearly from after the war. All of these pieces, which have hand engraved names on the reverse, are unique and are probably actually identification pieces for people picking up mail for the various firms named on the tokens. Sometime in the 1870's Stubenrauch moved to Texas where he continued in the engraving business.

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
SELECTIONS FROM THE HAYDEN JANUARY 25 2015 SALE : Charles Stubenrauch Medals Of All Kinds Coined (www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v18n04a19.html)

More on Encased Coins

BAKELITE MOHAWK ENCASED LIBERTY NICKEL BAKELITE MOHAWK ENCASED LIBERTY NICKEL

Regarding the bakelite encasement Frank Van Valen wrote about, Bob Leonard writes:

I've never seen this item before, but it looks like some kind of summer camp project. Also, I don't see how Frank can date it to 1911, since the nickel is worn to only G-VG condition; I'd date it closer to 1940 or even 1950, and suspect that the holder was intended for a BUFFALO nickel, but someone decided to substitute one of the old Liberty Head nickels instead.

Bruce Smith writes:

I have seen a lot of encased coins over the past 40 years. Normally the encasement is aluminum or less commonly brass. I have also seen modern plastic encasements. The coins are usually pennies, though I have seen nickels and quarters, and I have seen Canadian large and small cents encased. I also once had a small Swiss coin encased -- issued for the centennial of a Swiss community here in the USA.

The encasements are normally round or horseshoe shaped, but other shapes are known -- the rarest of which is in the shape of a teddy bear. I have sold a few 1948 encased cents, issued for the centennial of Wisconsin statehood, in which the encasement was in the shape of the state. But I have never seen or heard of a bakelite encasement nor of an encased V nickel. No doubt you will hear from Alan Weinberg, who is the king of encased coin collectors.

Alan V. Weinberg writes:

To quote the late great John J. Ford, Jr: "cockamamie".

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
BAKELITE "MOHAWK" ENCASED LIBERTY NICKEL (www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v18n04a14.html)

Information on Phares O. Sigler Sought
Bruce W. Smith writes:

I wonder if any E-Sylum readers can provide any background information on Phares O. Sigler (1899-1974), best known for his 1951 Numismatic Bibliography and his many articles on primitive money in The Numismatist and Numismatic Scrapbook. He is less well known as the author of the first book (in any language) on Chinese sycee silver ingots (1943). He was a Colonel in the J.A.G.C. (Judge Advocate General Corps) and lived in Silver Spring, Maryland. I found an article he wrote on Japanese netsuke in 1974, so he must have had interests beyond numismatics.

There wasn't much more than this in Pete Smith's American Numismatic Biographies, and nothing in John Lupia's online Encyclopedic Dictionary of Numismatic Biographies? (which has a 1940 cutoff). Can anyone help? -Editor

Notes and Coins Will Be Overtaken By Cashless Payments

David Pickup forwarded this depressing news for numismatists. -Editor

Banknotes and coins will be less popular than digital money by early March as cashless payments overtake cash transactions for the first time, analysis by The Times suggests.

The surging popularity of contactless credit cards and fast online bank transfers has reduced our reliance on physical currency, official figures show.

The Payments Council, which oversees all payment services in Britain, predicts that 400 million fewer cash transactions will be made this year than last.

David adds:

Perhaps as cash goes there will be more use for tokens. People do not like using card payments for car parking for example.

To read the complete article, see:
Notes and coins will be overtaken by cashless payments within weeks (www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/money/consumeraffairs/article4339115.ece)

Image of the Macerated Currency bust of George Washington
Regarding the Macerated Currency bust of George Washington, Paul Bosco writes:

Steve Tanenbaum asked me to appraise the damaged George Washington macerated currency bust, to put a dollar value on said damage. Steve Hayden's recollections match mine. What no one has mentioned thus far is that the piece was made for the 1932 birth centennial, rather later than the norm for macerated currency souvenirs.

As for Tanenbaum's skills as a package maker... I would occasionally let Steve T use my mailing table. Not a good idea. Once, having slathered a box with multiple pounds' worth of wet paper tape, he put it down on the table, on top of some 2x2 paper envelopes, containing thin jettons. These stuck to the bottom of the box and he unknowingly carried them off. Some were recovered. When my lease ends and I dis-assemble the table, I may recover more.

There may be as many Tanenbaum stories as Walter Breen stories.

Steve Hayden writes:

I found the picture. It is on page 31 of Dave Bowers's book A Guide Book of Washington And State Quarters.

Washington, George-Houdon bust pic [SLT and Steve Hayden] 1932-Houdon bust in papier mache [SLT and Steve Hayden]-1

Dave Bowers kindly forwarded the above images. On the left is the famous original Houdon bust of Washington; on the right is the macerated currency version. -Editor

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
NOTES FROM E-SYLUM READERS: JANUARY 25, 2015 : More on the Macerated Currency Bust of George Washington (www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v18n04a09.html)

Crowd-Sourcing a Medallic Visual Dictionary
Regarding Dick Johnson's call for a medallic visual dictionary, Chip Howell writes:

This seems like the perfect project for crowd-sourcing input: place the image(s) on-line, and let people tag them the way they do other pictures. The cataloger (curator-webmaster, really) could incorporate most or all of the suggestions into a series of hierarchical look-ups which could borrow liberally from heraldry (e.g. animal => dog => greyhound => "passant" => "sinister" => "regardant"), to facilitate searching.

I can't imagine, given the scope of the subject, that this would work anywhere EXCEPT on-line: has anyone got a rough idea how many medals there are? Yeah, I didn't think so... Anyway, putting "greyhound" & other terms (the particular metal, orientation, shape, and/or size) into the site's search engine would grab all images so-tagged: then you'd have a visual dictionary of sorts.

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
WANTED: A MEDALLIC VISUAL DICTIONARY (www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v18n04a11.html)

The Euro and Monetary Unions in History
Regarding the Euro and Monetary unions in history, Georges Depeyrot writes:

The victory of Syriza in Greece is a major event for the history of Euro. Will it be a rebirth of the monetary union of the beginning of the end?

We are now working on a European application on monetary unions in history. You can find a website on a previous program on http://www.emu-cost.net/, documents and videos on our actual program (on the collapse of the 19th monetary union) on DAMIN ( www.anr-damin.net) and the publications of Moneta ( www.moneta.be).

Georges adds:

We will have a meeting in May in Copenhagen (28-29 May) on the question of the technology of minting, mainly 19th century but some papers concern other periods. It will take place at the Royal Museum. Attendance is free. Abstracts on www.anr-damin.net

Query: First Use of Term 'Permanently Impounded' Sought
Paul Bosco writes:

Can a coin be criminal? We read, especially in auction descriptions, the cliché "permanently impounded". What is the history of this banal usage in numismatics?

I would speculate (totally gratuitously) that it was sour grapes from B. Max Mehl, annoyed at losing a consignment to a charitable donation. Or maybe Tom Elder, annoyed at spilling a drink.

To read the earlier E-Sylum articles, see:
INDIAN PEACE MEDALS IN STACK'S BOWERS 2015 AMERICANA SALE (www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v18n04a13.html)
CONTEMPORARY COUNTERFEIT COINS (www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v18n04a15.html)

Correction: 100 Times Estimate
Last week I wrote:

The 1796 cent sold on Wednesday 21st by Salisbury, Wiltshire (United Kingdom) auctioneers Woolley & Wallis. It was estimated at £500-700 The coin hammered for £48,000, over ten times estimate.

Rich Hartzog writes:

Well, no, try 96 times low estimate.

Oops. Looks like I dropped a zero - it's indeed more like 100 times the low estimate. Good catch. Sorry. -Editor

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
NOTES FROM E-SYLUM READERS: JANUARY 25, 2015 : 1796 Cent S-96 Sold in Woolley & Wallis Sale (www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v18n04a09.html)

Warning: SHOPPERZ Malware
Bruce Smith writes:

While searching in Google, I came across an article titled "Money in Ancient China" and clicked on it. Big mistake. There was no article, but it downloaded a site or program called SHOPPERZ which plastered the screen with pop-up ads. As fast as you click them to go away, another would appear. These pop-ups appeared mostly when I was on eBay, but when I was at other sites, they didn't show up at all. I ran Kaspersky twice, but it didn't solve the problem. Finally had to call the Geek Squad at Best Buy (definitely worth the $100 a year for the personal service). They managed to fix the problem, but it took "Steven B2" seven hours (poor guy). I was sitting at the screen too, expecting it would take up to an hour to fix (poor me). Anyway, all is well now.



Wayne Homren, Editor

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