THE JOSH TO END ALL JOSHING
Greg Heim writes: "There is a site called alt.usage.english.FAQ.
I e-mailed someone about this when I read the supposed origin
in Money Talks. It sounded a little glorified and they told me
that they were almost certain the origin of the word predated the
1880's, but never got back to me with any more information. I
am glad to see that someone else dug a little deeper."
Bob Van Ryzin of Krause Publications writes: "Thought you might
be interested in the following from my 1995 book "Twisted Tails."
It was provided by Eric von Klinger who used to work here.
"Another favorite story among numismatists is that the popular
phrase of disbelief "you're joshing" originated with Josh Tatum
and his passing of plated $5 gold coins. Sorry, as writer Eric von
Klinger pointed out, its origin dates to much earlier.
"The American Thesaurus of Slang, for example, notes of 'josh':
'To banter, 'kid' (U.S.-1845). Origin obscure. The earliness of the
usage rules out the supposition that it derives from 'Josh Billings,'
who had not yet gained a reputation as a humorist.'"
Oh well. The story of Josh, as well as the Billings quotes,
were entertaining while they lasted. As at least one NBS Board
member can attest, I thought immediately of Bob's book when
the subject first came up, I just couldn't put my hands on it in
my newly reorganized library. Shame on me - I cleaned things up
a little too well...
Wayne Homren, Editor
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