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The E-Sylum: Volume 6, Number 27, July 6, 2003, Article 16 STILL MORE ON INTERNMENT CAMPS Ronald Thompson writes: "I have trouble understanding how John Kleeberg could say "Yes, some of their American spouses and children joined them, but that was voluntary." It could only be construed as "voluntary" if the spouse had independent means of support to survive while their German or Italy citizen/spouse was interned. That was the day of one bread winner per family. My guess is that most of German or Italy citizen/internees were men. That meant that their housewife/homemaker had to feed the family and pay the bills without any income. This was before the welfare system of the last half of the 20th century. Certainly the housewife/ homemaker could conceivably get a job if she had the skills, however, most didn't. Yes, there were Rosie the riveters etc., but those individuals worked in the defense industry. How many spouses of interned aliens do you think could get a job with the defense industry? And if they lived in a small town who would hire them for anything when they knew the husband was an interned alien? No, this wasn't voluntary. It was the only alternative to being homeless that was forced on them due to the government's policy. It is somewhat like the choice the cow has in the slaughter yards - go down the chute or get zapped with the cattle prod. If the cow had a real choice, it would be anywhere but in the slaughter yards, but circumstances and, in this case, the government's actions, dictated this "voluntary" choice." Russ Rulau writes: "Dear Friends, I guess I should enter the discussion about Germans being interned in the U.S. during WWII, as I covered this in a small way in one of my books, "Latin American Tokens" (2nd edition, 2000, page 220). Beginning 1873 Guatemalan president Justo Rufino Barrios invited Germans to immigrate, and Chancellor Bismarck gave a boost to the arrangement. A special agreement permitted the Germans to reside, own property and every other right (except the vote) as resident aliens, keeping German citizenship. In the next 25 years these Germans and their offspring became wealthy, controlling coffee estates, railroads, banks, etc. In 1918 Guatemala declared war on Germany and seized all German-owned property controlled from Germany, but did not disturb the resident aliens or their lands, etc. In 1941 strongman Jorge Ubico declared war on Germany and "intervened" all property of those Germans of the third or fourth generation who had never taken Guatemalan citizenship, and interned all the Germans themselves (many of whom had never seen Germany). The internees, full families, were locked up at a U.S. Army base in Texas by arrangement with the U.S. government. In all, Ubico seized 130 German-owned coffee plantations of more than 600,000 acres, employing 80,000 persons. Ref: "Area Handbook for Guatemala," John Dombrowski et al, American University, Washington, D.C., 1970. Good input recently from John Kleeberg on this subject. Under international law, enemy aliens do have some rights, but as the above shows, they are slim." Wayne Homren, Editor The Numismatic Bibliomania Society is a non-profit organization promoting numismatic literature. See our web site at coinbooks.org. To submit items for publication in The E-Sylum, write to the Editor at this address: whomren@coinlibrary.com To subscribe go to: https://my.binhost.com/lists/listinfo/esylum | |
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