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The E-Sylum: Volume 7, Number 44, October 31, 2004, Article 12 DEPARTMENT STORE COIN LORE Bruce Burton writes: "The times I saw a coin department within a department store were at Macy's (Kansas City, ca. 1963-ish), Houston (downtown ca. 1977, I don't recall what store) and Sear's (I think) in Lisbon, Portugal in about 1979." Myron Xenos writes: "Back in 1956, I was a high school senior, and did my shopping, so to speak, at Halle Bros. Dept. Store, the building which now houses the Drew Carey TV show's Winfred Lauder Store. 48 years ago, the stamp & coin dept. was operated by Carl DiFalco, who was my mentor in the coin hobby. One day I was looking at some coins and also bought some stamps from the King Farouk collection. Carl looked at me and said, much like a father would,"You can't collect both stamps & coins successfully. You have to divorce one or the other." Not wanting to be thought a bigamist, I chose coins. Several years later, I became his accountant and tax advisor when he opened his own shop.From one decade to the next, I became his mentor regarding his finances. His eyesight began to fail, and I then had a coin dealer who was legally blind. We were friends till he died, but we spent many hours sharing our opinions about numismatics, politics, and taxes." David Lange writes: "My first coin purchase was from a Woolworth store. Until that time (c.1967) I had always wondered how collectors found all the old coins I saw listed in the Blue Book (my entire library at the time). I knew they certainly couldn't be found in circulation, and it hadn't occurred to me that old coins were actually for sale until I saw them at the dime store. The coins were mounted in 2x2s and displayed within swinging, glass and metal frames of the sort used by libraries to display historic newspapers and photographs. My first purchase was of a 1914 cent in Good condition, priced at 75 cents. It was a high price at the time, and it remains above retail even today. Mom was a bit skeptical of paying 75 cents for a penny, but I had to have it. A couple years later I began buying from the coin and stamp department at The Emporium department store, downtown San Francisco's largest retailer at the time. Dad would drive me down there on Saturday mornings so I could relieve myself of whatever money I had managed to acquire from doing work around the house and other odd sources. I bought BU Roosevelt Dimes to fill the few holes remaining in my set, along with Buffalo Nickels that actually had readable dates. I also acquired 1892 and 1893 Columbian Halves for $3 apiece, along with a few heavily worn Barber coins. I lusted after the sandwich bags filled with dozens of Walking Liberty Halves and Indian Head Cents, all different dates. These were priced way beyond my budget, but I was surprised for my birthday one year with a bag containing almost an entire set of Mercury Dimes. Such coins seem so ordinary and worthless now, but to a kid who daily searched in vain for anything dated before 1940 this was absolutely magical. Both store chains gave up their coin and stamp franchises in the early 1980s, about the same time that neighborhood coin shops likewise disappeared at a high rate. Now, twenty years later, both Woolworth and The Emporium are history. Buying coins from eBay may be more efficient and cost effective (if done correctly), but somehow the magic just isn't there anymore. Old coins and stamps, attractively presented, were a powerful lure to bored kids being dragged around by Mom while she shopped for clothes and other uninteresting stuff." Ken Berger writes: "Regarding the Golden Age of department store coin shops, I have an item of interest. Growing up in New York City, we had two major department stores next to each other in Manhattan: Macy's on 34th Street & Gimbel's on 33rd Street. Periodically, my family would go into the City (this is the way residents of the other four boroughs of NYC refer to Manhattan) to go shopping. Macy's didn't have a coin (or stamp) department but Gimbel's did. I seem to recall that both the coin & stamp departments were next to each other on the ground floor, with the stamp department being bigger than the coin department. At that time, they emphasized the fact that they were selling stamps from President Franklin Delano Roosevelt's collection. This was in the late 50s & early 60s. To make a long story short, I have a copy of Gimbel's "1961 Coin Price List No. 1." Some prices are as follow: 4-Piece Gold Set (2 1/2, 5, 10 & 20). "The coins ... are in choice and brilliant condition ... Each set is mounted for presentation & display in a sparkling lucite holder." --- $145.00 1798-1803 Silver Dollars in VF (choice of date by Gimbel's) --- $65.00 1933-1934 Vatican Jubilee 100 lire gold coin --- $50.00 1893 Columbian Half Dollar in Unc. --- $2.50 Those were the days." Denis Loring writes: "Many years ago I went into Rich's department store, I think it was in Denver. I asked to look at their large cents. They had an "1800 Fair" for sale for $6.00. It was indeed a Fair, clean and very well worn. Only the top half of the date was visible, but that was enough to tell that they had missed it by a year -- it was a 1799. Needless to say, I bought it-- even paid the sales tax." An anonymous reader writes: "In your piece on coin departments in department stores, you posed the question: "Why did the practice die out in the first place?" (see below). Many of these coin departments and stamp departments were actually owned by independent companies who leased space from the department stores, much in the same fashion as stores currently lease space from shopping malls. What killed these retailers was probably the percentage of gross sales demanded by the department store. This would also account for why few coin stores are located in shopping malls. To be successful as an independent leaser of space in a department store (or a mall), you have to sell high markup goods. That's why shoe stores and women's fashions are leading retail categories in malls. I'm hardly an expert on this subject, but I know someone who can probably give you the definitive answer. I'm referring to Arthur Friedberg of Capital Coin Company in Clifton, NJ. I believe his firm was the largest owner of these coin departments in department stores across the country. As I recall, Capital abandoned these coin departments during the early to mid-1980's. I remember Art posing the question: "How can you agree to a lease that requires you to pay a percentage of the gross on your Krugerrand sales?" Dick Johnson writes: "In response to our editor's inquiry about the Golden Age of department stores' coin shops: The giant of this field was Robert Friedberg. At the height of his empire in the 1960s and 1970s he operated 35 of these coin departments in Gimbel"s stores across America. This is the same Robert Friedberg who wrote the early standard works on U.S. paper money and world gold coins. He published these in addition to Hibler and Kappen's "So-Called Dollars." the standard work on dollar-size medals. He taught himself numismatics in the reading room of the New York Public Library, went on to create Coin and Currency Institute for his numismatic firm. He ran this empire from a building across the street from Gimbel's flagship store in New York City. It was a family firm. He brought in his brother, his wife, and ultimately his two sons to help manage this giant firm. Can you imagine the buying they must have done to keep these departments supplied with material? The customers were primarily women, buying gifts for family members. So there were a lot of sales of coin supplies, but they had to stock numismatic material as well. It was natural for Bob Friedberg to join forces with Medallic Art Company when the Hall of Fame medal series was inaugurated; Coin and Currency Institute was the exclusive distributor. Friedberg's buying of numismatic material extended worldwide. It was so extensive he was even the owner of an 1804 dollar. His sons, Arthur and Ira, are still active in the numismatic field. Perhaps they will read this and respond with some reminiscences of their numismatically famous father and the perils and profits of the coin departments empire." [If any of our readers are in touch with the Friedbergs, please forward this item to them and ask if they'd care to share some memories with us. -Editor] Wayne Homren, Editor The Numismatic Bibliomania Society is a non-profit organization promoting numismatic literature. See our web site at coinbooks.org. To submit items for publication in The E-Sylum, write to the Editor at this address: whomren@coinlibrary.com To subscribe go to: https://my.binhost.com/lists/listinfo/esylum | |
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