On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 I left work and drove through a rainstorm and rush-hour traffic to J. Gilbert's Steakhouse in McLean, VA for the latest dinner of my Northern Virginia numismatic social group, Nummis Nova. Roger Burdette was our host and we had a small room at the front of the restaurant. It was soon filled with me and Roger, Robert Hoppensteadt, Jon Radel, Wayne Herndon, my guest Jonas Denenberg, Lorne LaVertu, Mike Packard, Chris Neuzil, Steve Bishop, and last but not least, Julian Leidman.
Regulars Eric Schena, Tom Kays and Dave Schenkman had come down with colds and were unable to attend.
It was a really tight room and I was hemmed in and didn't get an opportunity to stand and take our usual group photo. But here are some shots I took on the way out. Nice place. No numismatic artwork, but how about some nice stamps?
An Unusual Star Note
At the recent Whitman Baltimore Expo I told Mike Packard I owed him a "prize" for being the first numismatist I'd run into at the show. This was it - dollar bill I'd found with ink doodles including two stars.
To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
WAYNE'S NUMISMATIC DIARY: NOVEMBER 12, 2023, PART 2 : An Unusual Star Note
(https://www.coinbooks.org/v26/esylum_v26n46a24.html)
Levin Messick's Julian Liedman Story
First, a digression before getting back to our dinner.
The day before our meeting I shared with Julian a story Lev Messick asked me to pass to him along with his thanks for a kindness years ago.
Lev writes:
I enjoyed reading the conversation with Mr. Gillio. It brought back a great memory. When I got out of high school, I spent 6 years in the Navy, 23+ months in Vietnam. I married and left the Navy and my wife and I had our first child. I worked for Texaco at the time. During my years, in the Navy, I did pick up coins and banknotes from all the places I visited. I had collected an obsolete bank note from my home town as well.
After my service, I was not an active participant in the hobby until one day when my wife saw an ad for the Long Beach Coin Show. She suggested that we should go and relax and enjoy. To make a long story short I stopped at Julian Liedman's table. He was from Maryland (Western Shore) and I am an Eastern Shoreman. You can take the shoreman from the shore but not take the shore from the shoreman.
Anyway, Julian had a beautiful display of U.S. Commemorative coins. I fell in love with them and wanted to buy several. I did not have enough money for them and had not brought a checkbook. I asked if he could hold them for me and I would come back the next day with the money. He said no, I can look at you and know you are honest. He insisted that I take the coins and pay him later. Well for me later was a quick 60 -mile round trip to bring him the money the same day.
He got me interested in collecting again and it has become a lifetime addiction. I have since been active in collecting, research, and editing for two nice obsolete Maryland banknote books. Money and Banking in Maryland by Kelly, et al. and I was also the Maryland editor of Volume 8 of the Whitman Encyclopedia of Obsolete Paper Money. Yes, I know I live in California but I have collected Maryland obsolete notes for nearly 50 years. I am also a historian -thus a trained researcher.
To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
RON GILLIO INTERVIEW, PART FOUR
(https://www.coinbooks.org/v26/esylum_v26n44a14.html)
Great story! It's what you gotta love about this hobby. People are friendly and willing to help fellow hobbyists. I'm grateful myself to a dealer and a fellow collector who each let me acquire a rare piece and make monthly payments on the purchase - and a numismatic mentor who lent me cash to purchase a large numismatic library years ago.
Whitman Encyclopedia of Obsolete Paper Money
Second digression - a reader had earlier reached out to ask about the status of the Whitman Encyclopedia of Obsolete Paper Money, and I got welcome news from publisher Dennis Tucker.
Rev. Stephen Knapp writes:
"What can you tell us about the future of the projected additional volumes of the Encyclopedia of Obsolete Paper Currency under the editorship of Q. David Bowers that Whitman was producing? Has it been scrubbed, shifted to an online resource, or merely delayed a bit to be resumed down the road?"
Dennis Tucker writes:
"Whitman has been steadily working on volumes 9 and above of the obsolete paper-money encyclopedia. Pennsylvania and New Jersey are the states next in line. This work has continued through the recent acquisition, and is proceeding as we speak. New York is shaping up to be a multiple-volume effort by itself. Specialists on these states and others are welcome to drop me a line!"
Collectors and researchers interested in helping can contact Whitman Publishing at
obsoletes@whitman.com.
Rev. Stephen Knapp adds:
"Thank you for looking into this. I am delighted to see the project has not been scrubbed. These books are outstanding."
Caracalla Medallion
OK, back to Tuesday's dinner.
In the ancient department, Robert Hoppensteadt had a great Roman medallion. Quite impressive in hand.
Robert writes:
PHRYGIA, Laodicea ad Lycum. Caracalla. AD 198-217. Æ Medallion - 43mm 49 g. L. Aelius Pigres, Asiarch. Struck AD 214-217. Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right / ? AI? ?IGPHC ACIAPX G ANETHKEN, • ?AO?IK?ON/N?OKOPON in exergue, emperor standing right on steps of distyle temple, holding wreath in right hand; on either side, pair of togate figures raising hand in acclamation; behind, troops standing, holding shields and spears; all within precinct enclosure, seen from aerial perspective; enclosure entrance composed of six columns; figure of Hygieia, holding serpent, standing in outer intercolumnations; uncertain figures (Pigres and spouse?) standing facing in central intercolumnation. Von Aulock, Phrygiens -; SNG München -; SNG Leypold -; SNG von Aulock -; BMC 227 (same rev. die); Friedlaender and von Sallet 876; SGI 2592 (same dies). An attractive architectural type and extremely rare.
This medallion commemorates an otherwise unknown address of the emperor Caracalla to the leading citizens of Laodicea during that emperor's advance across Asia Minor to meet the Persians. This issue appears to have been struck as a personal dedication of the Asiarch, as evidenced by the reverse legend. (CNG write up)
Prooflike 1822 Half Dollar
I was blown away by this beautiful prooflike 1822 half that went around the table. It belongs to Chris Neuzil, who writes:
"Production of War of 1812 Congressional medals was ramping up in 1818 - 1820, about the time when coins that pass for proofs started to appear. Perhaps the medals - made with reflective fields and frosted relief - inspired experimentation with specimen coins such as the 1822 half from this die pair certified as a proof. The dies were still fresh when this prooflike was struck.
"Add this to the reasons I don't like slabs. You can't appreciate, let alone photograph, a PL in them."
Lorne's Lovelies
Lorne LaVertu had some nice U.S. coins too.
1937-D 3 Leg Buffalo Nickel
1854-O Liberty Seated Quarter w/Arrows
Steve's Beauties
And of course, Steve Bishop can be counted on for some nice newps.
Steve writes:
"I brought a few eBay purchases: a run of proof Indian cents, a few nice Lincoln cents, and some nice Liberty and Buffalo nickels."
1881 Indian Cent NGC PF66+RB
1884 Indian Cent NGC PF66BN
1889 Indian Cent NGC PF67BN
1898 Indian Cent NGC PF66B
1898 Indian Cent NGC PF66RB
1911D Lincoln Cent NGC MS66BN
1911S Lincoln Cent NGC MS65RB
1918D Lincoln Cent NGC MS64RB
1883 With Cents Liberty Nickel
1898 Proof Liberty Nickel
1913 Type 2 Buffalo Nickel Toned
1918 Buffalo Nickel Toned
Discussion Topics
As usual, discussion topics were all over the map, from numismatics to Adam Sandler films and off-color jokes not fit to publish. There was talk about the recent Baltimore show and potential members moving to or visiting the area. During dinner Wayne Herndon got a text from my daughter - home from college for the holiday, she would put in some hours working at the Wizard Coin Supply warehouse to raise some spending cash. Wayne was wearing a nice Wizard logo shirt - with no merch section on the website, these are available only to the owners and employees.
There was also talk of the generational transition in numismatics. While many old-style clubs and shows are declining, a younger generation is out in force, with opportunities for arbitrage between the two markets, which is just what Jonas Denenberg has been doing - he sells material online that he purchases in person at smaller coin shows around the U.S. Traveling on trains, buses, and subways, he has his hands full bringing his hauls home. With his backpack full on a recent trip, he told us how he carried the rest in two literal bank moneybags on sketchy Philadelphia public transportation. That's grit! Safe travels going forward.
Mike Packard had his own travel trauma that night - after dinner his car had a dead battery and wouldn't start. I stuck around while he phoned for roadside assistance. I headed home and Mike reported later that the assistance arrived on time and got him back on the road as well.
Wayne Homren, Editor
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