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The E-Sylum: Volume 27, Number 50, December 22, 2024, Article 13

NOTES FROM E-SYLUM READERS: DECEMBER 15, 2024

Gilt Silver Nobel Nominating Medal
Steve Feller writes:

"I too have a Nobel Nominating Medal--mine is gilt silver and is for the sciences. Here are images of the medal in a PCGS slab--SP 65. There is no date on the medal but there is a code for the date on the edge--It is marked L10 which is the code for 1985."

  Nobel Nominatig Committee obv Nobel Nominatig Committee Rev

Thanks. Me, too. I love showing off "my" Nobel Prize medal. Congratulations on yours! -Editor

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
NUMISMAGRAM MEDAL SELECTIONS: DECEMBER 8, 2024 (https://www.coinbooks.org/v27/esylum_v27n49a17.html)

Gobrecht Dollar Restrike Image

  The ANS Attends Historic Commemoration of Christian Gobrecht Figure 3a The ANS Attends Historic Commemoration of Christian Gobrecht Figure 3b
Craig Scholley writes:

"The Gobrecht dollar pictured in the article on the ANS at the unveiling of the new grave marker for Gobrecht is not from the 1836 striking. The coin shown is a later restrike circa mid-1860s to early 1870s.

"There is slight die rust in front of Liberty's face and the reverse is not the original reverse (A, aka, "the Nicked Reverse"). Rather, the coin was struck using reverse B, "the Cracked Reverse," as can be seen from the light crack through the tops of most letters of UNITED STATES and through the bases of OLLA. All pieces using the Starry Cracked Reverse are restrikes.

"Clicking on the ANS accession number reveals that the coin is number 36 from the Korein Collection. K36 is listed in the spreadsheets compiled by Saul Teichman as an Alignment III coin. 1836 Alignment III coins are quite scarce with perhaps two dozen known.

"Alignment III coins, regardless of date, are thought to have been struck for William Idler who claimed he could tell the coins he had struck "at a glance." "

  The ANS Attends Historic Commemoration of Christian Gobrecht Figure 4

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
ANS AT GOBRECHT GRAVESTONE DEDICATION (https://www.coinbooks.org/v27/esylum_v27n49a12.html)

Other ANA Headquarters Options?
Justin Perrault writes:

"I found the writings on the ANA headquarters considering Omaha a very interesting read. Per the http://www.money.org/ana-history section: "An ANA national home and headquarters building fund was established on April 29, 1961. Sixteen cities in the central region of the United States bid for location of the new headquarters. Finally, Colorado Springs, Colorado, was selected, and ground-breaking ceremonies were held on September 6, 1966."

"Now my question is, what were the other 16 cities that were submitting bids in consideration for the new headquarters? I tried finding documentation of this anywhere online but came up short. I thought I recall that Racine, WI was at one time in the running, given its connection to the Whitman HQ."

  ANA Headquarters building 1967

Guess what - Pete Smith has the answer. He passed along this clipping from The Numismatist, May 1965, page 691. Thanks! -Editor

  ANA Site Selection.01

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
THE ANA CONSIDERED OMAHA FOR ITS HOME (https://www.coinbooks.org/v27/esylum_v27n49a15.html)

Fred Mayer's Mentorship
Kerry Wetterstrom writes:

"Reading Greg Bennick's interview with Larry Lee and Larry's comments about Fred Mayer brought back a flood of memories. My dad worked for Fred at Exeter Drilling Company until Fred sold the company. As a teenager, I would visit my Dad at his office and once Fred found out I was a coin collector, he would call me into his office and show me his latest numismatic purchase, which was always a thrill! Later, when I became a full-time dealer, I would still hear from Fred and talk with him about his various collecting passions."

No wonder you're one of the cool kids in numismatics! Great story. -Editor

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
DR. LAWRENCE LEE INTERVIEW, PART FOUR (https://www.coinbooks.org/v27/esylum_v27n49a16.html)

cut M and M What's Thicker? M&M or Penny Copper Coating?
Wayne Pearson writes:

"Fun fact ascertained by AI: "The copper coating on a US penny is approximately 20 microns thick. This translates to roughly 0.02 millimeters. The candy coating on an M&M is typically around 0.5 millimeters thick; however, this can vary slightly depending on the size of the M&M and the manufacturing process."

"I read this that an M&M has a thicker coating than the one cent coin does."

Who am I to argue with AI? But that sounds right to me - the M&M coating seems pretty thick, and metal manufacturing processes can be extremely precise. Thoughts, anyone? -Editor

Brutus Coin Struck, Not Cast
This Smithsonian article passed along by David Gladfelter states:

"A gold coin depicting Marcus Junius Brutus—the Roman senator who assassinated Julius Caesar, fatally stabbing him 23 times with a group of co-conspirators—has sold for €1.98 million (just over $2 million), nearly doubling its pre-auction estimate.

"The front of the coin features Brutus' profile bordered by a laurel wreath. The back depicts a breastplate, helmet, shield and spears—a collection of equipment celebrating military victories...

"The gold coin was "cast not in Rome but in a mint that travelled with Brutus and his armies as he tried to seize power after the assassination of Julius Caesar," Frank Baldacci, head of the auction house, told Agence France-Presse earlier this month."

David asks:

"Was the coin cast or struck? Maybe the Numismatic Chronicle article will tell you. Sydenham (page 202, item 1295, plate 30) says struck but it's very high relief for a struck coin."

  Brutus gold aureus obverse Brutus gold aureus reverse

I reached out to Shanna Schmidt, NBS Board member and our resident ancient coin expert. -Editor

Shanna writes:

"It was nice that the story got some attention but the coin is 100% struck, not cast. This is just an example of a journalist writing something that they clearly do not understand."

Indeed. Thanks, everyone. -Editor

To read the complete article, see:
A Rare Coin Depicting Brutus, Caesar's Infamous Assassin, Sells for $2 Million (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/a-rare-coin-depicting-brutus-caesars-infamous-assassin-sells-for-2-million-180985623/)

On the Chicago Manual of Style, 18th Ed.
David Gladfelter writes:

Chicago Manual of Style, 18th Edition book cover "Gotta say, I'm still using the 15th edition (which I bought at a discount), and only when necessary. It's really more of a resource for editors than writers.

"When you look up a matter of grammar or usage in it, you tend to stick with the answer. For example, section 9.37 tells you that the correct way to refer to a past decade is without the apostrophe, for example, the 1980s. But then you see responsible publications retaining the apostrophe. I'm not curious enough to spend $75 to find out whether or not to put the apostrophe back in.

"Would John Kleeberg be willing to serve on the editorial staff of the Manual? His voice would be welcome, that's for sure.

"Meanwhile, you may prefer a style book such as the New York Times Manual of Style and Usage. The current 368-page edition was published in 2015 and is also available on line. It's not the Chicago Manual's only worthy competitor."

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
REVIEW: CHICAGO MANUAL OF STYLE, 18TH ED. (https://www.coinbooks.org/v27/esylum_v27n49a25.html)

What Do All Y'All Think?
The new Chicago Manual of Style says

"y'all" has been pushing its way forward, ceasing to be a regional usage of the American South, but instead a way of distinguishing the second person plural from the second person singular.

Bill Eckberg writes:

"I learned it differently, that y'all was singular or vaguely plural, and its real plural form was all y'all."

As supporting evidence, Bill forwarded a definitive "THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW IF YOU MOVE TO THE SOUTH" list, pointing out #16. Here are some examples.

  • 5. Onced and Twiced are words.
  • 6. It is not a shopping cart, it is a buggy!
  • 9. Fixinto is one word. It means I'm going to do something.
  • 10. There is no such thing as lunch. There is only dinner and then there's supper.
  • 15. You don't PUSH buttons, you MASH em.
  • 16. Y'all is singular. All Y'all is plural.

-Editor

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
REVIEW: CHICAGO MANUAL OF STYLE, 18TH ED. (https://www.coinbooks.org/v27/esylum_v27n49a25.html)

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Wayne Homren, Editor

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