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The E-Sylum: Volume 25, Number 4, January 23, 2022, Article 15

NOTES FROM E-SYLUM READERS: JANUARY 23, 2022

Gold Penny of Henry III obverse Gold Penny of Henry III Die Types
Martin Purdy of Upper Hutt, New Zealand writes:

"I was struck by the shape of the E in REX in this piece, compared to the E in HENRIC, for example - it looks more like an O with a partial horizontal line added. Despite only eight examples being known, I've found three different forms of that letter on this denomination in a quick web search, one a more traditional Lombardic E and another looking more like a couple of superimposed S's. The original mintage must have been relatively large, given the existence of multiple die types, so I wonder how many more escaped the melting pot."

Good question. Time will tell! To read about the metal detectorist who found it, see an article elsewhere in this issue. -Editor

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
A NEW GOLD PENNY OF HENRY III (https://www.coinbooks.org/v25/esylum_v25n03a24.html)

More on Puebla de Los Angeles

Last week I wondered if this piece listed in the 1892 book by Alejandro Rosa was from the place we know today as Los Angeles, CA. -Editor

  Puebla de Los Angeles piece

Michael Wehner of San Francisco writes:

"This very question about whether Puebla de Los Angeles is the California city came up recently in a discussion with Federico Castillo about a medal that Hedley Betts had on his website."

Michael continues:

"In this case, Puebla de Los Angeles refers to the city of Puebla in the state of the same name in Mexico, not in present day California. It also known as the city of Angels. The medal we were researching is listed in "Medals of Mexico, by Frank Grove" as C-139."

Federico Castillo writes:

"The population of LA during Carlos IV reign was no more than 1000 and not economically important. Unlikely to have issued such a medal."

Thank you. Early American numismatics doesn't begin and end with the 13 original colonies. The well-known Texas Jola and Syd Martin's recent book on French Coinage Specifically for Colonial America attest to that. I was curious to know if there were early numismatic items attributable to California. -Editor

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
NOTES FROM E-SYLUM READERS: JANUARY 16, 2022 : Query: Is This Piece From Los Angeles, California? (https://www.coinbooks.org/v25/esylum_v25n03a17.html)

U.S. Sanitary Fair Numismatics
Mitch Fraas writes:

"If anyone is interested in the numismatic history of Civil War fundraising, there are several examples of coins and medals sold to benefit the war effort as part of the U.S. Sanitary Fair movement. I was reminded of this seeing a bookdealer's offering of the catalog to the coins sold to benefit the Western Sanitary Fair in Cincinnati in 1864. I know there were coins and medals exhibited here in Philadelphia. the Philadelphia fair had a machine on display from the mint which produced tokens for attendees (these are Baker-363a I believe). The New York fair had at least one coin on sale in their curiosity shop."

  Cincinnati Sanitary Fair sale catalog cover Cincinnati Sanitary Fair sale catalog coins and medals

Thanks. Mitch provided a number of links. -Editor

To read the Cincinnati sale catalog on NNP, see:
Priced catalogue of a large collection of autographs, coins, medals, etc., donated to the Great Western Sanitary Fair, to be sold at auction for the benefit of the Cincinatti branch of the U.S. Sanitary Commission, by S.G. Hubbard, at ... Cincinatti ... [03/15/1864] (https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/auctionlots?AucCoId=510983&AuctionId=520276)

  Philadelphia Civil War sanitary fair

For more information, see:
Philadelphia's Civil War sanitary fairs (https://philadelphiaencyclopedia.org/archive/civil-war-sanitary-fairs/)
Catalogue of articles contained in the museum and curiosity shop of the Metropolian Fair April 4th, 1864 (https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=loc.ark:/13960/t3gx4q20c&view=1up&seq=5&skin=2021&q1=coin)

Retiring and Quickly Un-Retiring
Alan V Weinberg writes:

"I found Dave Alexander's comments, expanded from a Coin World Guest Commentary, on Harvey Stack's passing particularly intriguing when he comments that the (unnamed) firm in California that purchased Stack's Bowers - that their employees wondered who Harvey Stack was ( ! ) over the furor of his re-hiring.

"Yes, re-hiring. When Spectrum acquired the StacksBowers firm, Spectrum actually fired HGS and QDB. This status was short-lived as there was such an uproar in the numismatic community worldwide that these men were re-hired as, at the very least, their presence was crucial to attracting future consignments. Spectrum could not understand that."

Sad, but true. A bizarre but thankfully brief episode. -Editor

To read the earlier E-Sylum articles, see:
HARVEY AND LAWRENCE STACK REJOIN STACKS-BOWERS (https://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v14n22a10.html)
NOTES FROM E-SYLUM READERS: JANUARY 16, 2022 : More on Harvey Stack (https://www.coinbooks.org/v25/esylum_v25n03a17.html)

Whitman Coin Printing Blocks
Whitman coin printing block 1 Bruce Bartelt writes:

"The printing blocks Dr. Kraft enquires about look very much like some that I purchased a few (6-7?) years ago from a Racine coin dealer at a local coin show. They apparently were disposed of when Whitman closed their Racine operations. The dealer had several dozen; I picked out a few with ancient coin images that were used for Edward Newell's book Royal Greek Portrait Coins as published by Whitman. Unfortunately, I cannot make a match with those Dr. Kraft's correspondent has. The Red Book and Blue Book don't use overlapping images as far as I have found, and I've checked a couple other Whitman books without luck. I suppose they could be from a completely different publisher, but it is an interesting coincidence.

"I've attached images of a few of mine."

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  Whitman coin printing block 2 Whitman coin printing block 3

Neat - great to be able to match up illustrations with the printing plate. Nice exhibit material.

These Whitman printing blocks have come up in The E-Sylum before. -Editor

  Whitman coin printign blocks

To read the earlier E-Sylum articles, see:
MORE WHITMAN COIN IMAGE PRINTING PLATES (https://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v17n06a15.html)
QUERY: COIN PRINTING BLOCKS (https://www.coinbooks.org/v25/esylum_v25n03a15.html)

Paris Mint Strikes of the John Paul Jones Medal
John Kraljevich writes:

"The US Mint didn't have the dies to the John Paul Jones medal in 1843 or for 20 years after that. That's a Paris Mint strike, probably of late 19th or early 20th century vintage. It should have a mark on the edge near 6:00 that would date it rather precisely."

Roger Burdette writes:

"Peale's 1843 list of medal dies is clear that the original Jones (and Washington) dies were in Paris; however, it is obvious that he was making electrotypes and copy dies to supply the US market."

  Gilt John Paul Jones medal

Peter Jones writes:

"I read with interest Robert Whitehead's note that he is collecting Comitia Americana medals — a great and historic series to collect. The best reference I have found is The Stacks Bower's Auction Catalog of John Adams' Comitia Americana medals in November 2019. Written by John Kraljevich, it covers 110 lots in 133 pages with a lot of detail and historical background."

Thanks, everyone. And don't forget Peter's own book on Comitia Americana medals, The First Medals of America. It contains a chart of all the different types of medals (which can be quite confusing), how many are known, and their price ranges. See the earlier article linked below for more information. -Editor

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
GILT JOHN PAUL JONES MEDAL (https://www.coinbooks.org/v25/esylum_v25n03a16.html)

The "Prince Andrew Commemorative Coin"

Arthur Shippee shared this topical "Prince Andrew commemorative coin". Thanks. -Editor

  Prince Andrew commemorative coin

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